WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.790 --> 00:00:04.430 If the world were to go vegan overnight, we would no longer need 2 00:00:04.430 --> 00:00:07.500 the around 82 billion farm animals we keep. 3 00:00:07.510 --> 00:00:09.740 But what would replace them in our diets? 4 00:00:09.750 --> 00:00:12.130 Could we live from only vegetables? 5 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:16.680 "You need a very high level of nutritional knowledge if you're not 6 00:00:16.680 --> 00:00:18.910 to develop a deficit, a deficiency." 7 00:00:21.697 --> 00:00:25.160 "Every person who eats a vegan diet helps achieve climate targets." 8 00:00:26.527 --> 00:00:30.020 The change would affect far more than the food industry. 9 00:00:30.430 --> 00:00:37.597 Animal testing, leather, fur, beeswax - all of them would become obsolete. 10 00:00:38.030 --> 00:00:41.310 Even some of the components in condoms are animal-based. 11 00:00:41.310 --> 00:00:45.710 Most could be replaced by plant-based or synthetic raw materials. 12 00:00:48.990 --> 00:00:52.470 "I believe humans are beings who change in situations where 13 00:00:52.470 --> 00:00:53.453 they're forced to." 14 00:00:55.097 --> 00:00:59.520 Futurologist and author Joel Cachelin has studied the utopian idea 15 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:02.180 of a vegan society intensively. 16 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:06.000 He says giving up meat from one day to the next would be a shock 17 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:07.380 for most people. 18 00:01:10.050 --> 00:01:13.220 "I think first they'd grow angry and rebel. 19 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:16.680 Then I would expect it to awaken a lot of innovation." 20 00:01:19.490 --> 00:01:22.550 Developing innovation in agriculture would be key. 21 00:01:22.670 --> 00:01:26.310 Taking livestock out of the equation would free up a lot of land. 22 00:01:26.390 --> 00:01:29.790 But not all of it would be suitable for farming plants instead. 23 00:01:30.190 --> 00:01:33.670 Producing enough food for all of us would remain a challenge. 24 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:38.580 Maybe that's why we could eat more microalgae. 25 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:43.360 Cultivated at sea, it could provide a valuable source of protein. 26 00:01:46.520 --> 00:01:49.660 Vertical farming could also gain in importance. 27 00:01:49.910 --> 00:01:54.110 Or industrially produced high-tech foods like lab-grown meat. 28 00:01:58.390 --> 00:02:01.380 "In a vegan world, new industries would emerge. 29 00:02:01.390 --> 00:02:04.950 Especially since people are probably not prepared to eat a completely 30 00:02:04.950 --> 00:02:08.070 different diet, and will want to continue to have things like 31 00:02:08.070 --> 00:02:09.260 sausage or steak. 32 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:13.110 Lab-grown meat is one way of continuing these traditions." 33 00:02:14.953 --> 00:02:18.630 Lia Bally is Head of Nutritional Medicine at a Swiss hospital. 34 00:02:18.760 --> 00:02:22.520 She thinks it makes sense for people to eat more plant-based foods. 35 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:26.560 But also that trying to feed humanity only a radical vegan diet 36 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:29.800 starting tomorrow could have unforeseen consequences. 37 00:02:32.663 --> 00:02:37.070 "It would be a step into the dark, because we don't yet have the data to 38 00:02:37.070 --> 00:02:40.350 assess any possible long-term medical consequences. 39 00:02:42.480 --> 00:02:47.080 What we fear is that it could lead to deficiency symptoms caused by taking 40 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:49.950 in too little vitamin B12 or calcium." 41 00:02:52.393 --> 00:02:55.880 Nutritionally, today's meat substitutes are not a perfect 42 00:02:55.880 --> 00:02:57.460 match for meat. 43 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:01.560 According to Lia Bally, it's particularly important for vegans to 44 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:06.040 have a broad general knowledge of exactly what's in plant-based foods. 45 00:03:07.910 --> 00:03:11.990 Futurologist Joel Cachelin says building a future that's better and 46 00:03:11.990 --> 00:03:15.130 not worse depends on how we shape it. 47 00:03:15.630 --> 00:03:19.910 Replacing wool with plastic, for example, would make little sense. 48 00:03:19.990 --> 00:03:23.830 Veganism, however, addresses many of our problems at once. 49 00:03:23.830 --> 00:03:28.350 One example: growing antibiotic resistance in humans due to mass use 50 00:03:28.350 --> 00:03:32.133 of the medications in livestock farming: 51 00:03:33.042 --> 00:03:34.970 "I think antibiotic 52 00:03:34.970 --> 00:03:37.710 resistance is set to have a major impact. 53 00:03:37.710 --> 00:03:41.990 If we suddenly live in a world where I'm no longer sure that I'll survive 54 00:03:41.990 --> 00:03:46.430 if I cut my finger, that could shake people up...and make them realize 55 00:03:46.430 --> 00:03:49.510 that we really need to radically change certain things." 56 00:03:52.277 --> 00:03:55.640 A vegan world would very likely have a positive impact 57 00:03:55.640 --> 00:03:56.900 on the climate. 58 00:03:56.960 --> 00:04:01.560 Livestock farming generates around 15% of global greenhouse gas 59 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:05.280 emissions, says climate researcher Cyril Brunner. 60 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:08.190 Veganism is not a prerequisite for hitting the climate 61 00:04:08.200 --> 00:04:09.390 targets we've set. 62 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:13.670 But if we could get by without livestock starting tomorrow, average 63 00:04:13.670 --> 00:04:17.480 temperatures would be 0.15 degrees cooler in 2050. 64 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:19.610 What does that mean exactly? 65 00:04:22.400 --> 00:04:26.830 "We've set the goal of limiting warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius. 66 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:30.520 So that would be about 10 percent of the battle -- so significant. 67 00:04:31.730 --> 00:04:35.440 The second thing is: humans have huge space requirements. 68 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:38.870 Globally, we've cut down a lot of forest. 69 00:04:38.880 --> 00:04:41.620 Around a third of the world's wooded areas. 70 00:04:42.320 --> 00:04:45.760 If we went vegan, we'd no longer need a lot of this area." 71 00:04:47.693 --> 00:04:50.470 So we could rewild parts of it. 72 00:04:50.550 --> 00:04:54.830 And new forests would bind immense amounts of climate-damaging CO2. 73 00:04:55.870 --> 00:04:59.110 We're still a long way from a livestock-free world though. 74 00:04:59.230 --> 00:05:03.070 In 2021, for example, Switzerland produced more eggs 75 00:05:03.070 --> 00:05:04.380 than ever before. 76 00:05:04.390 --> 00:05:07.630 But what would food in a climate-neutral future look like? 77 00:05:08.330 --> 00:05:12.140 "It'd be a world with less meat, fewer eggs and fewer dairy products." 78 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:16.240 A strictly vegan future is unlikely. 79 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:19.760 And despite our thought experiment, farm animals will probably 80 00:05:19.760 --> 00:05:21.900 never disappear completely. 81 00:05:21.960 --> 00:05:26.720 After all, they help with landscape maintenance and quite simply - we 82 00:05:26.730 --> 00:05:28.000 like having them there.