WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:02.960 This little pile of dirt was once an electric car battery. 2 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:04.720 Before it went through all this... 3 00:00:10.640 --> 00:00:12.780 ...and now you have all the good stuff - 4 00:00:12.780 --> 00:00:16.160 cobalt, nickel, manganese and lithium - in here. 5 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:18.160 And the idea is to turn these raw materials 6 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:20.440 into new a new battery again. 7 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:22.520 Companies promise they can make this work: 8 00:00:22.520 --> 00:00:24.920 recovering more than 90% of materials 9 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:26.920 from old lithium-ion batteries 10 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:29.960 and recycling them into new ones. 11 00:00:30.520 --> 00:00:31.840 And that's great news 12 00:00:31.840 --> 00:00:33.800 because we have more and more electric cars 13 00:00:33.800 --> 00:00:34.640 hitting the streets. 14 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:36.480 So, we need more and more batteries - 15 00:00:36.480 --> 00:00:40.040 and for those we need more and more resources. 16 00:00:40.040 --> 00:00:43.080 And recycling is better than mining new materials 17 00:00:43.080 --> 00:00:45.080 and throwing them away. 18 00:00:45.080 --> 00:00:46.960 But how does it work exactly 19 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:48.400 and does it work at scale? 20 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:54.600 To find out, we initially hoped to film 21 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:56.840 with a battery recycling company in Europe. 22 00:00:56.840 --> 00:00:59.160 But apart from releasing promo footage like this, 23 00:00:59.160 --> 00:01:02.640 the industry seems pretty secretive. 24 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:05.120 Thankfully, universities are much more open, 25 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:06.920 which is why we came to TU Clausthal. 26 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:08.920 Here, the focus is metal recovery - 27 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:10.960 just a perfect fit for us. 28 00:01:10.960 --> 00:01:12.080 But before we go in, 29 00:01:12.080 --> 00:01:14.960 I'll give you a quick rundown of how a car battery 30 00:01:14.960 --> 00:01:17.040 turns into a small piece of dirt. 31 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:18.800 There are several ways, 32 00:01:18.800 --> 00:01:20.000 but this is one of them. 33 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:22.840 First, the battery arrives at a recycling facility 34 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:24.440 and gets discharged. 35 00:01:24.440 --> 00:01:26.160 After, it's taken apart. 36 00:01:26.160 --> 00:01:27.480 This is done BY HAND 37 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:29.040 which means it's expensive. 38 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:31.126 But we'll get to that later. 39 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:33.960 The battery then get shredded, 40 00:01:33.960 --> 00:01:35.640 the liquid parts get extracted 41 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:38.400 and different methods of grinding and sifting 42 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:40.760 leave you with these base materials: 43 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:42.480 Metals from the battery housing, 44 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:46.040 plastic and a bit of aluminum and copper. 45 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:50.020 But the stuff that everybody is after is this... 46 00:01:50.840 --> 00:01:52.200 ...black mass. 47 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:54.400 This contains all the valuable materials 48 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:57.680 like lithium, cobalt, nickel and manganese. 49 00:01:57.680 --> 00:01:59.920 But also graphite. That's why it's black. 50 00:01:59.920 --> 00:02:02.520 And today we're going to get all of them out of there. 51 00:02:02.520 --> 00:02:05.000 That's not my job - but theirs. 52 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:08.680 This is Luka Mettke, a doctoral researcher at TU Clausthal, 53 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:11.800 and his chemical lab technician Maike Gamenik. 54 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:14.640 The university is part of a larger research group 55 00:02:14.640 --> 00:02:16.240 that is trying to figure out 56 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:19.160 how to do this on a larger scale. 57 00:02:19.160 --> 00:02:20.160 And by the way... 58 00:02:20.160 --> 00:02:22.360 this is what the end goal of this process 59 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:23.920 is supposed to look like. 60 00:02:23.920 --> 00:02:27.440 Thin metal foil. Ready to go into a battery again. 61 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:30.280 "What are we doing now with the black mass?" 62 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:32.280 "So now we're going into the leaching operation 63 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:33.040 with the black mass. 64 00:02:33.040 --> 00:02:35.160 So we are bringing all the valuable metals 65 00:02:35.160 --> 00:02:38.480 we have in the black mass into a solution. 66 00:02:38.480 --> 00:02:40.960 The metal we're after today is cobalt. 67 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:41.800 To bring that out, 68 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:44.960 Maike is using sulfuric acid as a solvent. 69 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:46.680 Pretty nasty stuff. 70 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:48.120 If it would touch our skin, 71 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:50.880 it would instantly cause severe burns. 72 00:02:50.880 --> 00:02:54.440 We're using a process called hydrometallurgical recycling. 73 00:02:54.440 --> 00:02:55.960 It's a low temperature process 74 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:58.480 that only uses small amounts of energy 75 00:02:58.480 --> 00:03:01.400 compared to other battery recycling methods. 76 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:03.680 Sulfuric acid's fumes are toxic. 77 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:05.760 Hence the ventilator, 78 00:03:05.760 --> 00:03:08.080 but this entire process is perfect 79 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:09.440 for getting rid of impurities 80 00:03:09.440 --> 00:03:11.000 that are still in the black mass 81 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:13.240 after all the shredding and sifting: 82 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:15.920 Mainly aluminum and copper. 83 00:03:15.920 --> 00:03:17.560 As a second step the black mass 84 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:19.280 also gets filtered. 85 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:19.960 Luka says 86 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:21.920 throughout the entire recycling process 87 00:03:21.920 --> 00:03:26.880 they are able to remove 95% of impurities. 88 00:03:26.880 --> 00:03:28.880 On a scale a little bigger, 89 00:03:28.880 --> 00:03:31.120 the whole process looks like this: 90 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:32.800 massive pots of solvent 91 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:35.280 in which the black mass is processed. 92 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:38.080 "So, from what we are seeing here, 93 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.680 the exhaust gasses seem to be a bit of an issue. 94 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:42.280 What are we dealing with there?" 95 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:45.480 "Yeah, we're having a small issue with this. 96 00:03:45.480 --> 00:03:47.640 Depending on the acid you are leaching with, 97 00:03:47.640 --> 00:03:49.960 for example in our case, sulfuric acid, 98 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:53.160 you might have some evolution of H2S 99 00:03:53.160 --> 00:03:55.360 and also some HF formations. 100 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:56.960 So, this is kind of problematic 101 00:03:56.960 --> 00:03:59.200 and definitely something you need to look into 102 00:03:59.200 --> 00:04:01.160 when you're going into upscaling." 103 00:04:01.160 --> 00:04:03.400 "And we also have the acids, the solvents, 104 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:04.600 the leaches and stuff like that 105 00:04:04.600 --> 00:04:06.760 which is also not that great for the environment. 106 00:04:06.760 --> 00:04:09.240 Is there a way to approach that differently?" 107 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:10.560 "Actually, there are at the moment 108 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:13.400 upcoming researches for organic acids 109 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:14.600 or more greener acids 110 00:04:14.600 --> 00:04:18.200 which are also very biocompatible with the environment. 111 00:04:18.200 --> 00:04:20.920 So normally they are quite harmless. 112 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:25.560 But the research is in a way 113 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:28.320 not at an advanced stadium as it is now." 114 00:04:28.320 --> 00:04:29.960 And if you don't work cautiously, 115 00:04:29.960 --> 00:04:31.720 you get headlines like this: 116 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:34.560 SungEel HiTech's factory in Hungary recorded 117 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:38.160 high levels of cancer-causing heavy metals in the air 118 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:42.080 and had difficulties filtering its exhaust gasses. 119 00:04:42.080 --> 00:04:45.800 Bye bye environmental benefits of recycling. 120 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:47.280 So many things to consider 121 00:04:47.280 --> 00:04:49.320 and we're not even halfway done. 122 00:04:49.320 --> 00:04:52.520 Our black mass is now added to another solvent 123 00:04:52.520 --> 00:04:54.360 that will help bring out the cobalt 124 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:56.720 in this chemical cocktail. 125 00:04:56.720 --> 00:05:01.600 And it's pretty colorful: from greenish to dark blue. 126 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.040 "It's so blue that it almost looks like ink. 127 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:06.240 You could write with that." 128 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:10.720 And it's this dark blue part, actually, 129 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:13.160 that the cobalt sticks to. 130 00:05:13.880 --> 00:05:16.160 To get a higher concentration of cobalt 131 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:18.920 we need to do another round of this. 132 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:23.080 This time, we're going from blue to red. 133 00:05:23.080 --> 00:05:25.240 "Now, that's a color change!" 134 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:27.800 So, now the cobalt is in the darker reddish parts. 135 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.360 But to be able to use the metal in new batteries, 136 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:33.200 you of course need to get it out of the solvent. 137 00:05:33.200 --> 00:05:35.000 You can do that by heating it up, 138 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:36.640 as you would at industry-scale. 139 00:05:36.640 --> 00:05:39.160 Or - a little quicker - in a small lab like this 140 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:41.480 with yet another solvent. 141 00:05:41.960 --> 00:05:45.000 "You can really see the crystals a lot here 142 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:47.480 they have accumulated at the bottom. 143 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:52.080 How much cobalt of the black mass is in here?" 144 00:05:52.080 --> 00:05:53.920 "Well actually with this technique we are able 145 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:56.360 to recover more than 99% of the cobalt." 146 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:57.600 "What are the biggest challenges 147 00:05:57.600 --> 00:05:59.360 in upscaling these processes? 148 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:00.960 What makes it so hard?" 149 00:06:00.960 --> 00:06:03.920 "Yeah of course here we also run into the problem 150 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:06.040 that on the lab scale we are only doing this 151 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:06.920 in batch experiments. 152 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:09.560 So step by step, very calm and steady. 153 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:11.280 But in industry you want to earn money. 154 00:06:11.280 --> 00:06:13.480 So you're having a continuous process 155 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:15.400 and handling a continuous process 156 00:06:15.400 --> 00:06:17.440 with all the impurities and all the process steps 157 00:06:17.440 --> 00:06:19.600 and small things you need to consider - 158 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:20.640 it's kind of challenging, yes." 159 00:06:21.280 --> 00:06:23.160 That's what other researchers say as well: 160 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:26.360 recovering more than 90% of materials is possible, 161 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:29.600 but this requires optimal conditions, 162 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:31.920 which you don't always find in the real world. 163 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:33.520 If recovery rates drop, 164 00:06:33.520 --> 00:06:36.400 the business case becomes even more difficult. 165 00:06:36.400 --> 00:06:38.560 And that's what it comes down to with recycling. 166 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:40.840 One thing is to make it work technologically. 167 00:06:40.840 --> 00:06:44.000 A completely different thing is to make money from it. 168 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:48.240 And that's where the industry faces its biggest challenges. 169 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:49.640 Remember how I said that batteries 170 00:06:49.640 --> 00:06:51.640 have to be taken apart by hand? 171 00:06:51.640 --> 00:06:53.160 That's because every manufacturer 172 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:55.440 builds them a little bit differently... 173 00:06:55.440 --> 00:06:57.080 This means machines can't currently 174 00:06:57.080 --> 00:06:58.160 do all of the job. 175 00:06:58.160 --> 00:06:59.800 And that drives up costs. 176 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:02.400 So does the most expensive part of the process: 177 00:07:02.400 --> 00:07:04.880 the hydrometallurgical recycling. 178 00:07:04.880 --> 00:07:06.320 And there's another factor 179 00:07:06.320 --> 00:07:09.040 that makes it hard to turn a profit. 180 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:13.200 "The more difficult part comes in 181 00:07:13.200 --> 00:07:14.720 from volatility in the market 182 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:16.360 because in the metals market 183 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:17.760 you have a lot of speculation. 184 00:07:17.760 --> 00:07:21.520 And if you see, for instance, lithium prices, 185 00:07:21.520 --> 00:07:23.240 one year back, 186 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:25.160 I don't know the exact number by heart, 187 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:28.320 but one year back, I think it was eight times higher, 188 00:07:28.320 --> 00:07:29.520 ten times higher than today. 189 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:31.040 Crazy prices." 190 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:33.760 This is Julian Prölß from BASF. 191 00:07:33.760 --> 00:07:34.680 They just opened up 192 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:36.840 their prototype black mass refining plant 193 00:07:36.840 --> 00:07:38.280 in Germany this year, 194 00:07:38.280 --> 00:07:41.440 and plan to scale up the technology further. 195 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:45.880 "The volatility in the market is a stress 196 00:07:45.880 --> 00:07:48.880 to everybody who mines or who recycles. 197 00:07:48.880 --> 00:07:51.320 Right now, the prices are quite low, 198 00:07:51.320 --> 00:07:55.280 which is a challenge for everybody who seeks investment." 199 00:07:55.280 --> 00:07:59.080 Basically if prices are high, recyclers make more money. 200 00:07:59.080 --> 00:08:01.440 But the question is: How much? 201 00:08:01.960 --> 00:08:04.200 Consulting firm McKinsey expects recyclers 202 00:08:04.200 --> 00:08:09.360 to make around $800 to $1,600 per ton of battery. 203 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:13.160 "It's really about how much do you pay 204 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:15.240 when you acquire the material." 205 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:16.480 This is Hans Eric Melin. 206 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:17.400 He has been analyzing 207 00:08:17.400 --> 00:08:20.400 the end of life battery market for years. 208 00:08:20.400 --> 00:08:23.720 "So if you get material for free 209 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:27.040 and then you process it and sell it to market price, 210 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:29.440 you will usually make a lot of money. 211 00:08:30.960 --> 00:08:33.160 You will most probably make more 212 00:08:33.160 --> 00:08:35.440 than many mining operations." 213 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:37.680 But if recyclers would need to pay for the batteries, 214 00:08:37.680 --> 00:08:39.320 the economics get shaky. 215 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:41.480 This could mean recycling is more expensive 216 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:44.120 than just mining new materials. 217 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:45.960 And this isn't the only issue 218 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:47.400 for a commercial size plant. 219 00:08:47.400 --> 00:08:49.000 Another challenge are the materials 220 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:51.120 used in the battery itself. 221 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:53.480 It could be a whole bunch of combinations: 222 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:55.437 lithium iron phosphate (LFP), 223 00:08:55.437 --> 00:08:57.917 or lithium manganese oxide (LMO), 224 00:08:57.917 --> 00:09:00.800 or lithium nickel cobalt aluminum (NCA), 225 00:09:00.800 --> 00:09:04.320 or lithium nickel manganese cobalt (NMC). 226 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:08.600 And the last one comes even in different compositions: 227 00:09:09.040 --> 00:09:10.760 1:1:1, 228 00:09:11.160 --> 00:09:12.680 6:2:2 229 00:09:12.880 --> 00:09:15.400 or 8:1:1. 230 00:09:15.880 --> 00:09:17.480 It's the Wild West out there 231 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:19.480 when it comes to battery manufacturing, 232 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:21.480 which makes it more difficult to build 233 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:23.680 tailored commercial plants. 234 00:09:23.680 --> 00:09:26.120 "You have to build them for the largest possible amount 235 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:27.800 of the individual material, 236 00:09:27.800 --> 00:09:29.760 like nickel, high nickel, 237 00:09:29.760 --> 00:09:32.280 8:1:1, for instance. 238 00:09:32.280 --> 00:09:34.160 The ratio to the other components, 239 00:09:34.160 --> 00:09:37.680 you have to have a really huge nickel separator. 240 00:09:37.680 --> 00:09:39.640 Whereas if you're having a 1:1:1, 241 00:09:39.640 --> 00:09:42.520 you have to be able to precipitate a lot of cobalt. 242 00:09:42.520 --> 00:09:44.600 Then you have to have a huge separator for cobalt. 243 00:09:44.600 --> 00:09:46.640 You have to be pretty robust. 244 00:09:46.640 --> 00:09:48.440 And that's of course driving the costs, 245 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:51.000 which means that some analysis 246 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:52.680 from some universities 247 00:09:52.680 --> 00:09:55.960 predicting cost of the flow sheets is completely wrong, 248 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:58.720 because they might go to an optimum case." 249 00:09:58.720 --> 00:09:59.840 The bottom line is: 250 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:00.840 in the real world, 251 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:04.480 recycling is much, much harder than on paper. 252 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:06.360 Another problem for the recycling batteries 253 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:07.880 doesn't have anything to do 254 00:10:07.880 --> 00:10:09.840 with the recycling process itself, 255 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:12.240 but with the missing feedstock. 256 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:14.160 Electric car batteries last longer 257 00:10:14.160 --> 00:10:16.000 than previously thought. 258 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:17.640 And after that they get used 259 00:10:17.640 --> 00:10:19.560 for all kinds of other things, 260 00:10:19.560 --> 00:10:21.600 like storing renewable energy. 261 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:23.520 Which means there aren't as many batteries 262 00:10:23.520 --> 00:10:25.400 to be recycled. 263 00:10:27.080 --> 00:10:28.200 On a lab scale, 264 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.200 recycling batteries is no issue at all: 265 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:35.000 99% cobalt recovered. Insane! 266 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:36.840 But on a commercial scale, 267 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:38.160 not so much info there. 268 00:10:38.160 --> 00:10:39.000 For example, 269 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:40.040 what are we going to do 270 00:10:40.040 --> 00:10:41.920 with the harmful byproducts? 271 00:10:41.920 --> 00:10:43.640 So, there are some questions 272 00:10:43.640 --> 00:10:45.640 that still need to be answered. 273 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:50.520 If you did like the video comment on it, 274 00:10:50.520 --> 00:10:52.600 share it, do whatever you want with it 275 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:54.480 and don't forget to subscribe to our channel. 276 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.520 We post new videos on the environment 277 00:10:56.520 --> 00:10:57.400 every Friday.