WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:01.520 When I was a kid, 2 00:00:01.520 --> 00:00:03.480 I used to love playing these card games. 3 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:05.760 Well, ok, I am not proud of myself either, 4 00:00:05.760 --> 00:00:08.520 but back in the 90s military toys were just a thing. 5 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:11.040 We could see which plane was the fastest, 6 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:13.320 which could carry the most payload 7 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:15.920 and which could fly the farthest. 8 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:17.640 But looking at those cards now, 9 00:00:17.640 --> 00:00:20.080 I realized one piece of information is missing... 10 00:00:20.240 --> 00:00:22.440 The fighter planes' CO2 footprint. 11 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:25.200 And that's not the fault of those card games. 12 00:00:25.200 --> 00:00:28.040 We calculate the climate impact of almost everything: 13 00:00:28.400 --> 00:00:30.920 avocados, jeans, passenger planes. 14 00:00:31.080 --> 00:00:32.400 But it's close to impossible 15 00:00:32.400 --> 00:00:34.680 to pin down how much the military emits. 16 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:36.360 We are talking about a sector 17 00:00:36.360 --> 00:00:38.960 with a budget of 2.2 trillion dollars 18 00:00:39.760 --> 00:00:42.120 that uses helicopters, tanks, ships, 19 00:00:42.120 --> 00:00:42.620 fighter planes. 20 00:00:43.120 --> 00:00:44.440 And none of these emissions 21 00:00:44.440 --> 00:00:45.720 have to be reported. 22 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:48.920 How is it possible that such a huge sector 23 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:50.560 can just fly under the radar? 24 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:53.120 And what can we do to change that? 25 00:00:57.240 --> 00:00:58.720 But first a quick disclaimer: 26 00:00:58.720 --> 00:01:00.440 Talking about greenhouse gas emissions 27 00:01:00.440 --> 00:01:01.720 when it comes to war 28 00:01:01.720 --> 00:01:03.104 and the military may sound weird. 29 00:01:03.680 --> 00:01:05.960 War creates all sorts of destruction. 30 00:01:05.960 --> 00:01:08.000 People get killed, forests burned down 31 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:10.000 and entire cities destroyed – 32 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:12.840 and all that's horrible beyond imagination. 33 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:13.920 But here, I want to focus 34 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:14.960 on the emissions. 35 00:01:14.960 --> 00:01:16.560 The military's CO2 footprint 36 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:18.080 is a massive blind spot – 37 00:01:18.460 --> 00:01:20.760 partially because data is really sparse. 38 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:21.520 Look at this map. 39 00:01:21.720 --> 00:01:23.440 It shows the quality of the data 40 00:01:23.440 --> 00:01:24.920 that governments submit to the UN, 41 00:01:24.960 --> 00:01:26.880 when it comes to their military emissions. 42 00:01:27.080 --> 00:01:28.920 The reporting of the five countries 43 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:30.440 with the biggest military budgets 44 00:01:30.440 --> 00:01:33.040 is all considered poor or very poor. 45 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.120 India, the second-largest military by troop size, 46 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:38.440 does not give any emission figures at all. 47 00:01:40.720 --> 00:01:42.920 "You can't begin to think about 48 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:43.960 managing effectively 49 00:01:43.960 --> 00:01:45.040 your greenhouse gas emissions 50 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:46.240 if you don't know what they are 51 00:01:46.240 --> 00:01:46.740 in the first place." 52 00:01:47.240 --> 00:01:48.720 Lindsay Cottrell works at the 53 00:01:48.720 --> 00:01:50.880 Conflict and Environment Observatory. 54 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:53.560 "We've got at the moment 55 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:55.120 very limited knowledge really. 56 00:01:55.440 --> 00:01:57.280 We've been trying to map this 57 00:01:57.320 --> 00:01:58.520 and assess it because 58 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:01.200 it sits outside of the 59 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:05.200 UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. 60 00:02:06.160 --> 00:02:07.360 There's too many holes 61 00:02:07.360 --> 00:02:08.760 and we need governments 62 00:02:08.760 --> 00:02:11.080 to recognize the importance of this." 63 00:02:11.640 --> 00:02:13.040 The origin of this problem 64 00:02:13.040 --> 00:02:14.600 dates back to the Kyoto Protocol, 65 00:02:14.600 --> 00:02:17.440 a climate agreement adopted in 1997. 66 00:02:17.440 --> 00:02:19.120 Back then after strong lobbying 67 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:20.200 from the United States, 68 00:02:20.200 --> 00:02:21.840 the world's military were exempted 69 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:23.520 from declaring their emissions. 70 00:02:25.760 --> 00:02:28.320 Then came the Paris agreement in 2015 71 00:02:28.320 --> 00:02:29.680 that left it up to governments 72 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:30.600 to decide how 73 00:02:30.600 --> 00:02:32.520 and where to cut their emissions. 74 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:34.680 And the military reporting was – again – 75 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:35.920 not made mandatory. 76 00:02:36.600 --> 00:02:38.360 That's why today we have no clue 77 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:40.040 how much the world's armies emit. 78 00:02:41.520 --> 00:02:42.240 But we do know: 79 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:43.400 the problem is getting bigger. 80 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:44.680 Military spending worldwide 81 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:47.960 grew 3.7% on average in 2022. 82 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:49.120 In Eastern Europe, 83 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:51.120 triggered by Russia's invasion of Ukraine, 84 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:53.400 it went up by 58%. 85 00:02:54.640 --> 00:02:56.120 In Europe, part of this is going to 86 00:02:56.120 --> 00:02:57.840 modernizing the fighter jet fleet. 87 00:02:58.400 --> 00:02:59.400 Some countries are replacing 88 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:00.880 their old F-16s, 89 00:03:00.880 --> 00:03:02.440 which are being sent to Ukraine, 90 00:03:02.440 --> 00:03:04.200 with these new F-35s. 91 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:07.160 Right now, in Europe alone, 92 00:03:07.160 --> 00:03:10.000 there are around 120 F-35s in operation. 93 00:03:10.760 --> 00:03:12.480 But Lockheed Martin, its producer, 94 00:03:12.480 --> 00:03:13.400 expects this number 95 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:15.680 to rise to 600 by 2030. 96 00:03:15.720 --> 00:03:17.480 The US plans to buy 97 00:03:17.480 --> 00:03:19.040 some 2,500 new units. 98 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:22.080 Such long-term commitments 99 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:23.200 are called "Lock in". 100 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:25.760 The F-35s that are being bought now 101 00:03:25.760 --> 00:03:29.400 will fly – and burn fuel – up until 2070. 102 00:03:32.600 --> 00:03:33.800 According to one analysis, 103 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:36.000 "For each 100 nautical miles flown" – 104 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.280 that is around 185 km – 105 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:41.520 "one single F-35 emits as much CO2 106 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:43.760 as an average UK gasoline car 107 00:03:43.760 --> 00:03:44.840 driven for one year" 108 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:47.840 So what do the world's armed 109 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:49.360 forces have to say for themselves? 110 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:51.480 We reached out to the big four – 111 00:03:51.480 --> 00:03:53.720 US, China, Russia and India – 112 00:03:53.720 --> 00:03:54.720 for comment. 113 00:03:54.720 --> 00:03:56.520 But none of them got back to us. 114 00:03:57.240 --> 00:03:58.640 Military officials seem to see 115 00:03:58.640 --> 00:04:00.880 climate change mainly as a security risk 116 00:04:00.880 --> 00:04:03.520 Only a few such as NATO's Jens Stoltenberg 117 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:05.040 call out their own emissions 118 00:04:05.040 --> 00:04:06.440 as part of the problem. 119 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:08.640 "But we also need to ensure 120 00:04:08.640 --> 00:04:10.440 that our armed forces 121 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:12.040 do their part when it comes to 122 00:04:12.040 --> 00:04:13.080 reducing emissions. 123 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:15.360 There is no way we can get to net zero 124 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:16.800 without also reducing emissions 125 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:19.760 from the military sector." 126 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:21.120 But it's hard to know 127 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:22.600 how much of a reduction is needed, 128 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:23.760 if nobody knows how much 129 00:04:23.760 --> 00:04:25.120 the military actually emits. 130 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:27.720 That's why scientists started calculating. 131 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:29.040 "We estimated it was somewhere 132 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:31.640 between 3.3% and 7% 133 00:04:31.640 --> 00:04:32.680 of global emissions, 134 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:35.520 with a best estimate of 5.5%". 135 00:04:35.520 --> 00:04:36.720 This is Stuart Parkinson. 136 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:38.440 He co-wrote a study that calculated 137 00:04:38.440 --> 00:04:40.200 the global footprint of the military. 138 00:04:41.840 --> 00:04:43.760 "The number of military personnel 139 00:04:43.760 --> 00:04:45.520 was a key factor 140 00:04:45.520 --> 00:04:48.440 and spending was significant, 141 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:51.760 military activity was significant. 142 00:04:51.760 --> 00:04:54.440 The number of large pieces of hardware. 143 00:04:54.440 --> 00:04:57.920 But a lot of this data is very hard to find 144 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:00.400 or to attach directly to emissions. 145 00:05:00.400 --> 00:05:02.040 So, we just had to piece it together 146 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:04.800 from what we could." 147 00:05:05.520 --> 00:05:07.200 Most countries don't publish data 148 00:05:07.200 --> 00:05:09.240 on their military's greenhouse gas emissions, 149 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:10.720 claiming it would be a risk 150 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:12.400 to their national security. 151 00:05:12.840 --> 00:05:14.760 But they do like to talk about the size 152 00:05:14.760 --> 00:05:16.600 of their military with details about 153 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:19.280 their aircraft fleet, troop size and so on. 154 00:05:19.280 --> 00:05:21.280 The researchers used data like this, 155 00:05:21.280 --> 00:05:23.120 when estimating the emissions of countries 156 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:25.120 that withheld specific data. 157 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:29.480 "One thing we do know about 158 00:05:30.520 --> 00:05:32.840 India and Russia and China 159 00:05:32.840 --> 00:05:36.920 is a good estimate of their size of military forces 160 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:38.840 in terms of number of personnel. 161 00:05:38.840 --> 00:05:40.520 And then you look at the relationships 162 00:05:40.520 --> 00:05:42.440 between number of personnel and 163 00:05:42.440 --> 00:05:45.240 size of emissions in Western countries 164 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:46.800 and you say, okay, well, 165 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:47.480 roughly, 166 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:53.120 those ratios are going to apply in those countries, 167 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:56.040 depending on how many aircraft they have, 168 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:57.160 and various other factors, 169 00:05:57.160 --> 00:05:59.480 so you just make a few assumptions." 170 00:06:00.080 --> 00:06:02.800 The US Armed Forces represent 39% 171 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:05.160 of all the military spending on the planet. 172 00:06:05.520 --> 00:06:07.080 And all that money causes 173 00:06:07.080 --> 00:06:08.960 an unbelievable amount of emissions. 174 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:11.200 As an institution the Pentagon 175 00:06:11.200 --> 00:06:12.840 is the biggest single greenhouse gas emitter 176 00:06:12.840 --> 00:06:13.680 in the world. 177 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:16.120 So big that it emits more greenhouse gases 178 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:17.520 than entire countries, 179 00:06:17.520 --> 00:06:19.280 such as Sweden or Finland. 180 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:24.280 And let's be clear: 181 00:06:24.280 --> 00:06:26.120 we are only talking about the emissions it takes 182 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.280 to build up and sustain a military. 183 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:30.360 If the worst case happens 184 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:32.640 and that military actually goes to war... 185 00:06:32.640 --> 00:06:34.880 emissions go up immensely. 186 00:06:34.880 --> 00:06:36.200 Look at this graph that shows 187 00:06:36.200 --> 00:06:37.760 US military's greenhouse gas emissions 188 00:06:37.760 --> 00:06:40.840 from 1975 to 2018. 189 00:06:42.400 --> 00:06:44.440 In 1991 there's a spike – 190 00:06:44.440 --> 00:06:46.520 right when the first Gulf War happened. 191 00:06:47.880 --> 00:06:48.760 Then it goes down – 192 00:06:48.760 --> 00:06:50.520 as Cold War tensions eased, 193 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:53.640 and US military bases abroad closed down. 194 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:56.280 Then another spike from 2001, 195 00:06:56.280 --> 00:07:00.080 after 9/11 and the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. 196 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:03.480 But the conflict in Ukraine took measuring 197 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:05.040 the environmental impact of war 198 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:06.400 to a whole new level. 199 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:08.920 It is a conflict in the big data era, 200 00:07:09.400 --> 00:07:11.280 where we can follow the battlefield 201 00:07:11.280 --> 00:07:12.760 through satellite images. 202 00:07:13.280 --> 00:07:14.600 And the Ukrainian government 203 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:16.600 even publishes what environmental impact 204 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:17.720 military actions have. 205 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:20.400 Including the units of equipment destroyed 206 00:07:20.400 --> 00:07:21.880 and the cost of emissions. 207 00:07:23.200 --> 00:07:25.880 This study funded by NGOs from Ukraine and Europe 208 00:07:25.880 --> 00:07:28.160 estimated that during the first year and a half 209 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.080 after the Russian invasion in Ukraine 210 00:07:30.080 --> 00:07:33.160 150 million metric tonnes of CO2 were emitted. 211 00:07:34.200 --> 00:07:36.440 This is equivalent to Belgium's emissions 212 00:07:36.440 --> 00:07:37.840 in the same period. 213 00:07:38.880 --> 00:07:40.280 "The war fighting 214 00:07:40.640 --> 00:07:43.440 generates quite a lot of emissions." 215 00:07:44.080 --> 00:07:46.080 Lennard de Klerk is a climate scientist 216 00:07:46.080 --> 00:07:48.000 and the lead author of this study. 217 00:07:48.400 --> 00:07:53.000 "The usage of fossil fuels for the tanks, 218 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:57.160 fighter jets, but also the whole logistics behind, 219 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:00.840 you know, both frontlines to bring new ammunition, 220 00:08:00.840 --> 00:08:02.800 rotate soldiers, 221 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:06.320 provide food, etc. 222 00:08:06.320 --> 00:08:09.000 And what I sort of initially expected that 223 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:10.800 that would be the biggest source 224 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:11.920 of emissions. 225 00:08:12.320 --> 00:08:15.120 But that is actually not the case." 226 00:08:15.760 --> 00:08:17.280 The biggest source of emissions 227 00:08:17.280 --> 00:08:19.160 comes from having to rebuild Ukraine. 228 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:22.280 This accounts for 36% of the emissions. 229 00:08:22.760 --> 00:08:25.640 Warfare comes second with 25%. 230 00:08:26.280 --> 00:08:28.520 Then you have fires with 15%. 231 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:30.040 Because in many cases, 232 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:32.080 the firefighters cannot access the territory, 233 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:34.480 so the fires burn up huge areas. 234 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:37.760 Then civilian flights have to be diverted, 235 00:08:37.760 --> 00:08:39.960 which adds another chunk of emissions. 236 00:08:40.640 --> 00:08:43.120 The airspace over Ukraine is of course closed, 237 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:46.200 and Russia has closed its airspace to Western airlines, 238 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:48.160 as a response to economic sanctions. 239 00:08:48.880 --> 00:08:51.240 So a flight for example from London to Tokyo 240 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:53.040 now takes around 15 hours, 241 00:08:53.040 --> 00:08:54.800 instead of the previous 11. 242 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:56.760 Such re-routings put an extra 243 00:08:56.760 --> 00:08:59.720 18 million tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere 244 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:01.720 in the first year and a half of the conflict. 245 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:07.000 War also requires fuel to keep both armies running. 246 00:09:07.640 --> 00:09:10.280 But the Russian army have used three and a half times 247 00:09:10.280 --> 00:09:11.880 more fuel than the Ukrainians. 248 00:09:12.280 --> 00:09:13.400 According to the researchers, 249 00:09:13.400 --> 00:09:15.960 this is because the Russian supply lines are much longer 250 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:17.320 than the Ukrainian ones. 251 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:22.840 Another recent study has measured 252 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:24.600 the impact of the war in Gaza. 253 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:25.520 It calculated that, 254 00:09:25.520 --> 00:09:27.520 in the first 60 days of the conflict, 255 00:09:27.520 --> 00:09:29.200 the fighting generated more than 256 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:32.200 281 thousand metric tonnes of CO2 – 257 00:09:32.400 --> 00:09:35.960 as much as 62 thousand 500 gasoline-powered cars 258 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:37.240 emit in one year – 259 00:09:37.640 --> 00:09:39.640 and that doesn't include future emissions 260 00:09:39.640 --> 00:09:40.760 for rebuilding Gaza. 261 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:44.240 Most of it is attributed to the Israeli air bombardment 262 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:46.320 and invasion of the Palestinian territory. 263 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:47.720 As we publish this video, 264 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:49.560 the study has not yet been peer-reviewed, 265 00:09:49.880 --> 00:09:51.920 so it needs to be taken with caution. 266 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:52.700 Still, 267 00:09:52.800 --> 00:09:53.640 it's more evidence 268 00:09:53.640 --> 00:09:55.080 that points to the enormous impact 269 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:56.800 that war has on climate change. 270 00:09:57.920 --> 00:09:59.200 So where does that leave us? 271 00:09:59.760 --> 00:10:02.880 Military forces are a massive driver of climate change. 272 00:10:03.280 --> 00:10:04.640 War makes it worse – 273 00:10:04.640 --> 00:10:06.120 a LOT worse. 274 00:10:06.520 --> 00:10:08.000 So what can we do about it? 275 00:10:08.680 --> 00:10:10.320 "There is a tension, of course, 276 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:13.280 between, you know, military capabilities 277 00:10:13.280 --> 00:10:15.680 and climate change and emissions. 278 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:19.760 And it's up to, you know, the politicians 279 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:22.960 to make the right decision 280 00:10:23.160 --> 00:10:24.760 where the balance should be. 281 00:10:25.040 --> 00:10:25.920 But you can only make 282 00:10:25.920 --> 00:10:28.560 a sort of transparent decision 283 00:10:28.560 --> 00:10:30.000 if you have the numbers." 284 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:31.960 There have been some baby steps 285 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:33.120 in the right direction. 286 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:35.000 The UN has recognized the problem 287 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.360 and is pushing for much greater transparency. 288 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:38.880 Some countries are already declaring 289 00:10:38.880 --> 00:10:41.200 their military emissions in a more transparent way – 290 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:44.160 such as the UK, Norway and Germany. 291 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:47.080 NATO has been encouraging its members 292 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:48.400 to deal with this issue. 293 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:49.920 They released a methodology 294 00:10:49.920 --> 00:10:52.040 providing guidelines and tools to calculate 295 00:10:52.040 --> 00:10:54.160 greenhouse gas emissions in the military. 296 00:10:54.800 --> 00:10:56.720 Experts say it has its flaws, 297 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:58.880 but it might influence other armed forces. 298 00:10:59.280 --> 00:11:00.200 And a study found 299 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:02.120 that the defense industry manufacturers 300 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:03.280 are also changing – 301 00:11:03.280 --> 00:11:04.640 setting Net Zero targets 302 00:11:04.640 --> 00:11:06.080 and reporting their emissions. 303 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:08.880 This could put pressure on the military to do the same. 304 00:11:09.400 --> 00:11:11.760 But reporting emissions alone is not enough. 305 00:11:11.760 --> 00:11:12.760 The military also needs 306 00:11:12.760 --> 00:11:14.320 to be willing to reduce them. 307 00:11:14.520 --> 00:11:15.720 And when military officials 308 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:16.760 are pushed on this – 309 00:11:16.760 --> 00:11:18.160 they know their priorities. 310 00:11:18.560 --> 00:11:20.840 "If we had to choose between something 311 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:23.800 which is green or combat effective. 312 00:11:23.800 --> 00:11:26.720 We have to choose the combat effective solution. 313 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:30.000 So, the challenge is to ensure that in the future 314 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:32.840 the combat effective solutions are the green ones." 315 00:11:33.560 --> 00:11:35.160 Reducing fossil fuel dependency, 316 00:11:35.160 --> 00:11:36.240 is a way for militaries 317 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:38.080 to reduce their vulnerability. 318 00:11:39.400 --> 00:11:41.160 This could mean, among other things, 319 00:11:41.160 --> 00:11:43.240 replacing jet flights by drones, 320 00:11:43.520 --> 00:11:45.120 using electric vehicles 321 00:11:45.400 --> 00:11:48.840 and installing renewable energy generation on military bases, 322 00:11:49.280 --> 00:11:51.200 as well as using nuclear power. 323 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:55.120 This is most clearly shown by the 11 aircraft carriers 324 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:56.200 of the United States, 325 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.080 which are all nuclear-propelled. 326 00:11:59.280 --> 00:12:01.680 While this creates issues like nuclear waste, 327 00:12:01.880 --> 00:12:03.040 it reduces the problem 328 00:12:03.040 --> 00:12:04.840 of greenhouse gas emissions. 329 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:08.840 "The proposals that are coming out 330 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:10.520 of the military establishment 331 00:12:10.520 --> 00:12:13.280 are all about more military, 332 00:12:13.280 --> 00:12:14.680 all about more war fighting, 333 00:12:14.680 --> 00:12:16.920 all about preparing for more war fighting. 334 00:12:16.920 --> 00:12:19.760 But this is completely the wrong direction 335 00:12:19.760 --> 00:12:21.880 in which we need to be going. 336 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:23.360 We need to be building... 337 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:25.240 We need to find ways to build trust. 338 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:26.840 We need to find common ground." 339 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:29.360 "There's a much broader conversation to be had 340 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:33.320 about military strategy and diplomacy 341 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:36.320 and greater peace building and preventing, obviously, 342 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:37.720 conflicts in the first place." 343 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:39.920 From an environmental perspective, 344 00:12:39.920 --> 00:12:41.560 the best solution would obviously be 345 00:12:41.560 --> 00:12:43.880 to reduce the military forces everywhere. 346 00:12:44.160 --> 00:12:46.720 But in 2024, the opposite is happening, 347 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:48.800 with military spending accelerating. 348 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:52.200 This secretive sector is particularly hard to clean up. 349 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:54.040 A first step would be to lift the veil 350 00:12:54.040 --> 00:12:56.360 on its role enforcing climate change. 351 00:12:57.480 --> 00:12:58.480 What do you think? 352 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:00.880 How can we get the military to decarbonize? 353 00:13:00.880 --> 00:13:02.160 Let us know in the comments. 354 00:13:02.160 --> 00:13:04.440 Subscribe to our channel and hit the like button. 355 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:06.920 We release new videos for you every Friday.