Secrecy and surveillanceTo play this audio please enable JavaScript, and consider upgrading to a web browser that supports HTML5 videoJohn Whitehead06/15/2013June 15, 2013Civil liberties advocate John Whitehead says he tried to raise alarms about NSA data gathering as early as the 1980s. At the time, he was laughed at.https://p.dw.com/p/18q3NAdvertisement Interview: Neil King and Kate Laycock in conversation with John Whitehead, founding director of the Rutherford Institute